Andalusian Horse News Breaking News by Donna DeYoung The Foundation Seeks to Establish New Registry Added 1/29/07 by Donna DeYoung The Foundation for the Pure Spanish Horse held a meeting in Dallas over the weekend of 01/26/08. The following topics were discussed (and broadcast via email over the net). My comments are in italics. 1. The Foundation has ceased any new "work" to ANCCE and will not submit anything new for now to Spain. Anything already submitted will be followed through with by The Foundation and ANCCE. They will keep that door open always. I'm hearing several different views on this - some say the Foundation is not working AT ALL with ANCCE. And perhaps it is not their choice ... They should have gone to the Ministry of Agriculture with their problems and not taken it up head to head with ANCCE. As a result, the Foundation has lost status with Spain. 2. ANCCE is having some real difficulties with the stud book. They have not even printed any cartas from Spanish breeders from last year. Over 4,000 are waiting to be printed. Easy that many waiting to be processed. These are new applications from mostly Spanish breeders. Most of them cannot even show their un-carta yearlings in shows this year in Spain. It will also greatly affect sales there. It will be a long time before they could or would be able to look at any problem submissions from previous years. It is chaos. This is true. No cartas are being issued in Spain. There are problems with lawsuits involving ANCCE. I'm sure everyone in Spain wants this resolved as quickly as possible. The market there has come to a standstill. 3. It can never go back to the Cria since when Spain joined the European Union, studbooks have to be managed by a "national" breeder's association. Only ANCCE qualified for national last year. There may be 3 new national Spanish associations that can apply for managing the stud book this year. This is true, the Stud Book is not going back to the Cria. We have known this for some time. 4. The Foundation, in it's wisdom and dedication, decided that inscriptions, revisions, farm codigos, and cover reports cannot continue to wait indefinitely until Spain works their internal issues out. Breeding and foaling and ownership changes will go on with time and a tremendous back log would build up, get lost, get messed up and become unwieldy and most likely not get resolved and organized for years. I don't agree. This is not wise and it is not dedication. The Foundation should have stayed the course or not picked up this responsibility in the first place. 5. Their answer was to form their own worldwide Pure Spanish Horse Registry. Other foreign countries have already expressed their eagerness to join. Their computer program to process everything is in place and starts immediately. Interesting that this was formed "so quickly"... What other foreign countries are so eager to join? 6. The Registry board will consist of the Foundation president, a Registrar and an elected breeder. Several ex-Cria gentlemen have eagerly volunteered to guide the process and paperwork and do revisions exactly as it was previously done by the Cria. A passport will be issued. They are guessing it should only take 2-3 weeks for total completion to process inscriptions if all paperwork is correct. DNA will be done by UC Davis and by pulling hair. Shipped semen by revised (does not have to be qualified) stallions will be allowed. Revision will take place with a ficha, measurements and scoring of each body area. Revision should be available in many more locations and more opportunities. Spanish cria will perform the revisions. This process is similar to a "B Book" such as the Friesians and Warmbloods offer. It will not take the place of actual Spanish Papers. Passports are generally a European tradition. 7. All (S) horses that are pure Spanish are welcome to be registered and receive a carta if DNA and paperwork are correct. Inscription and revision can be done at the same time. If they pass revision, their carta will receive a stamp stating revised/approved with broken lineage. This donates that their sire and dam, although pure Spanish, were not revised and approved P.R.E.s. This process taps into the S market that is currently held by the IALHA. Many people are in the boat with un-revised and un-inscribed horses. Not just because of problems with ANCCE or FAB-PRE-USA. Many have purchased horses from breeders who don't believe in revision. 8. Horses passing revision that are out of revised and approved P.R.E.'s will receive a stamp that says revised/approved with unbroken lineage. This will be the ONLY difference between the 2 and only a clerical way to keep track of the parentage classification difference in the event that Spain ever welcomes the US back in their studbook. It will also make it very easy to process these horses if Spain "opens" their stud book even for only a year for horses from unrevised parents. Passing revision in the U.S. by a U.S.-created organization? This is not equal to Spain and may not be accepted by Spanish standards for whatever reason. 9. Once (S) horses have a carta (and are revised if over 4 years old), all will be welcome to show in performance AND morphological classes under a Spanish judge. Judges will not know any differences between the horses as P.R.E. and (S) will all have the same paperwork and cartas. ONLY the approval stamp is different. Once again, tapping into the "S" market. This will increase the number of horses eligible to compete at Foundation shows. Such shows would not be acceptable by Spain's standards. 10. Any problem P.R.E. that had submitted paperwork over the years and never received any documentation back from Spain, can get the Foundation carta for FREE. You will need to contact the office, submit copies of everything you had submitted to Spain and bloodwork. You may make a donation for staff time to complete the carta if you feel like it. Any problem PRE? Free papers? and then the word "donation"? I've already heard of people at the Foundation offering breeders papers for un-revised horses - "we'll get them for you" - as a favor for other services. This is dipping into the un-ethical. 11. Fees for all services on new applications are very reasonable and even more so if you are a Foundation member. Another registry, another fee ... Now we will have triple-registered horses! 12. The Foundation will strive to keep all avenues to Spain open at all times. The Foundations' registry will be run just like the Cria ran the studbook. If ever it reaches a time that they can work together again in an efficient manner, the Foundation will continue to keep that path open to Spain. From now on, the US will have its' own P.R.E. registry with strict evaluations and a book of merits (now not working in Spain since the Cria no longer has the stud book). Halter classes will be run in the Spanish manner under Spanish judges. The Foundation's stud book will be open to all pure Spanish horses worldwide. If they would have spent as much time working on this "all avenues to Spain open at all times" ... we would not be where we are now? Not working at all with ANCCE ... The idea of a U.S. registry with revisions is not new. It has been brought up before. This is a truly wonderful and tremendous opportunity for everyone with a pure Spanish horse. The Foundation is dedicated and passionate about the P.R.E and the horse ALWAYS comes first. It will be organized, efficient and a benefit to breeders and owners. Shows will be properly run with wonderful exhibitions, judging according to the Spanish rules and evaluations, and approved breeding stock will have to go through an in depth measurement and scoring system. What an exciting and marvelous opportunity this is for all pure Spanish horse enthusiasts and the start of a new page in this horse's history. Stay tuned for more updates about how things are going with Spain! [Home]